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Author	Topic:   RH:the second coming?
craigy	posted 1/9/05 5:25 PM       hey,as a rocky fan, i was suprised to rad in the lates issue of attitude (jan 2005) about Rocky horror: The Second coming..... quote:"Richard O'Brien claims he only has one song left to finish on Rocky Horror: The Second Coming. Watch this space."Im not making this up, attitude jan 2005 page 106....what do u lot think?craigy x
Rob Bagnall	posted 1/9/05 11:01 PM       Richard has been writing this sequel for what seems like an eternity. Various "Rocky Horror" sequels (film and stage) have been mooted over the years. There was "Rocky Horror Shows His Heels" (nice title), which kind of morphed into "Shock Treatment" in 1981 when Jim Sharman made it clear he didn't want to make a direct "monster rises from the grave" type follow-up to RHPS. Then there was "Revenge of the Old Queen" (songs were written, and demos recorded apparently), which also never happened. When we saw Richard performing a charity "audience with..." kind of night at the Fab Cafe in Manchester in 2003, he was asked about the stage show sequel, and said he was having a break from finishing it until his divorce was settled. Maybe he's getting ready to complete the script, and "Rocky Horror - The Second Coming" (also a fabulous title) is finally on its way. It's a pity really because, as a devoted "Rocky Horror" fan (for twenty years), a very big part of me really does NOT want to see a sequel. I would love the original to remain a perfect one-off classic piece of theatre that will continue to be revived forever.
Edward	posted 1/12/05 1:44 PM     I've been around rocky circles since '98, really, and though I obviously don't go as far back as rob and a lot of others, it seems to me that Mr O'Brien has been "just about finished" the sequel forever. I have sometimes wondered whether it's just his little joke with the fans ("Yeah, I'm writing a sequel")... Course it'll never be the same as rocky itself, but I've got no real problem with them making one. Just as the *original* Star Wars films (and I mean the proper versions, none of this Greedo shooting first crap) can't be made bad by those vile prequels, Rocky can't be badly affected by some crappy sequel. It might even reignite some interest in the original, which goodness knows would be a good thing, there can never be too many Rocky fans in the world. ultimately, it'll never be the same as the original, of course, but then if it's not much cop, it'll just disappear. ST (which i personally happen to love - was way ahead of its time with the whole reality TV thing) didn't match up to a lot of folks' expectations, and it just kinda slid quietly from the view of all but the RH hardcore. And you never know.... if RO'B really has been working on a serious sequel project for all these years, there's just a chance that it might be something great...
Rob Bagnall	posted 1/12/05 7:45 PM       Hi Edward. Yes, I love "Shock Treatment" too; the songs are great, it was WAY ahead of its time, very very deep (the Big brother obsessives clearly learned nothing from the messages of either "Shock Treatment" or "The Truman Show"), and Little Nell looks incredible in that outfit. However my initial interest in "Rocky Horror" was sparked by my childhood love of B-movies, 1950s rock'n'roll and cheesy sci-fi, so "Rocky" itself will always be in a class of its own for me.It's not a movie sequel I have a problem with (as we will always have RHPS at our disposal on vid or DVD); it's the prospect of a stage follow-up I find worrying. If Richard wants to put out a stage show sequel, then it's probably likely to appear INSTEAD of a new production of "Rocky", rather than as well as. Then who knows how long we'll have to wait for a new tour or production of "The Rocky Horror Show" itself? It's over a year now since the official site was updated and fourteen months since the last tour ended. Quite frankly I'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH.
Edward	posted 1/17/05 8:27 PM     Rob, yeah, i see what you mean about a stage sequel... It'd be interesting if they did one and toured it around the same venues as - for want of a better term - Rocky 1, with say a month's delay... Though TBH, given that the stage show is a big commerical enterprise now, I can't see them dropping Rocky in favour of a sequel show when there's more marketing potential for a rerun of the original, with less investment (not such a cynical stance when you hear how few theatre productions actually turn a profit)... To run a sequel, you'd probably get the Rocky faithful, but noone new, whereas we all will keep going back to see the original, and they'll attract new folks too. Maybe if there is one they'll hive off a sequel to a subsidiary company and let it run as an experiemntal fringe thing to see if it has legs first. Oh, now, though... thinking about Shocky, in these days of Jerry Springer the Opera, wouldn't that be an interesting stage show....
Frankie Fan	posted 3/31/05 1:53 PM       Fellow rocky fans, I really think this is a great debate , as many of my friends who are 'Rocky Fan's' Didn' know about such a sequal , I'm pleased t know I'm Not crazy...well.....Much,Anyway , i also think it strange , that it has taken so long to finish writing, thought I'm Sure it would be good , Does anyone Know any other song Titles, 'I'm not Dead yet!' i hear that's one of Frankies songs, as You all seem to be so 'well-endoersed' i Rocky II knowledge , lets share it? please lol http://www.rockyhorror.co.uk the bestest site ever
Adam Clarke	posted 3/31/05 7:56 PM       Hi I have heard about two songs from Rocky 2 one is "The Moon Drenched Shores Of Transylvania" and the other one which is called "Never Let Your Daughter Date An Alien" was dicussed on the 1992 UK Transylvanian Convention by Zalie Burrow and Kate O'Sullivan I have not heard of any other song titles though. Personally I would love to see a sequel made, maybe it won't be a hit but I think if they tour Rocky 1 first and then tour Rocky 2 there will be a lot more chance of it being a success. Because if they tour Rocky 1 and promote the sequel with it to in advertising etc there is a chance it could be a hit. Obviously it won't be a bigger hit than the original Rocky but I think it would be great for the fans etc.. What I think is a much better idea is if they make a remake of Rocky with the stars from the original. Maybe that is just one of my silly dreams though lol. http://pub16.bravenet.com/forum/1351986543 The Shock n Horror Fan Club
Rob Bagnall	posted 3/31/05 11:52 PM       As far as I'm aware, the songs "Shores of Transylvania" and "Never Let Your Daughter Date an Alien", as mentioned by Zalie and Kate at Transylvania '92, were written (and demos were recorded) for the much discussed, but never produced, movie sequel Revenge of the Old Queen in the 90s. However, I believe that the sequel that Richard has been writing for the last few years is a completely different Rocky Horror stage show sequel, so I don't know if those two songs (or indeed any of the songs for Old Queen) would still be part of it. As I've said before, I'd much prefer to see an imaginative well produced revival of The Rocky Horror Show itself rather than trying to recapture the magic of a one-off classic with any kind of sequel... even with Richard's genius behind it.
KevMc	posted 4/4/05 10:01 PM     Yeah I'm in Agreement with Rob on this one, as much as a sequel would be fun, I think it would be almost destined to fail next to the original. A supposed leaked screenplay of "Revenge of the Old Queen" has been on the net for years and I have to admit I didn't even finish reading it. (Draw your own conclusions there...) I would prefer to see a brand new "number one tour" production of Rocky (Independant from Rocky London and the Direction of Chris Malcom.) Or better still, those lucky enough to be at Translyvania 99, would have seen me asking Richard to Sing some songs from "The Stripper" his 1982? musical co-written with Richard Hartley. He obliged, and the cheers from the audience showed how well this was recived. Think about it a small budget, no names in the cast just talent, a new book for the show; this spoof-dective-murder-mystery-who-dunnit would be perfect for the Edinburgh Fringe, before a run at the Venue in Londons West end. Lets start a petition now!
Ali	posted 4/5/05 9:44 PM       KevMc, you've got a good point about them reviving "The Stripper", that would be really interesting.I would love to see a sequel to Rocky. I don't think it will work. Richard has got so much to live up to. It doesn't matter what he does some fans will hate and be really bitchy about it. I don't know if he could re-catcher the innocence again (I think RO'B said something like that in an interview).Something completely new that sounds like a better idea to me.